• @Carmakazi@lemmy.world
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    01 month ago

    Pack your asses into Globemasters and GTFO. Leave the fighter jets and the armor for the people still willing to fight for democracy.

    • shoulderoforion
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      01 month ago

      oh, he’s not planing on bringing them home, i have a feeling he’s planing on sending them somewhere … else

  • 👍Maximum Derek👍
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    01 month ago

    Makes sense to move our nukes out of Germany, since Trump doesn’t want them pointed at Russia any more.

  • Darren
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    01 month ago

    If only Fred Trump had pulled out in 1945.

  • @thejml@lemm.ee
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    01 month ago

    Doesn’t he have better things to do? Like playing golf non-stop for the next 4 years at Mar-a-Lago instead of considering and tariffing everything?

  • shoulderoforion
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    01 month ago

    … which he’ll then redeploy to Ukraine to prevent European troops from entering

  • @thefluffiest@feddit.nl
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    01 month ago

    To everyone cheering this idea and wanting or not minding US troops leaving Germany, stop and think a bit first. Those troops are part of the nuclear shield protecting Europe. Removing those troops is not just a few peeps going home, it removes Europe’s most important line of defense.

    The only possible backup to that would be getting France and/or the UK using their nukes for the same purpose. That would create a de facto European mini-NATO, if not a full blown European army. Not saying that’s not a great idea, but just think of what it would entail - for starters, who would be the commander in chief of a European army?

    • @filister@lemmy.world
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      030 days ago

      At this stage I trust the UK and France more than I trust the US. Not to mention the security implications that Trump is a crony of Putin.

    • Lit
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      01 month ago

      The one with the most nukes, so this will encourage more EU country to nuke up for safety.

    • @fluxion@lemmy.world
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      030 days ago

      Anyone still under the impression that this traitor would shield Europe from Russia hasn’t been paying attention for the last 8 years.

      The sooner we accept this reality the sooner the EU can take appropriate precautions, up to and including nuclear proliferation to other close partner countries.

    • @Devanismyname@lemmy.ca
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      01 month ago

      I guess that’s stuff they’ll have to iron out sooner rather than later. Maybe each country contributes a certain amount of resources to the eu army. They don’t need one of their own because Europe army protects all countries within the eu.

    • @froh42@lemmy.world
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      030 days ago

      Yes that’s right. It’s a get your shit together or go bust moment for us here in Europe.

    • Pumpkin Escobar
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      01 month ago

      who would be the commander in chief of a European army?

      Pick any random person off the street to command it and you’re probably better off than having to deal with Trump.

      Not trying to make light of it, but as an American the rest of the world HAS to isolate and defeat Trump, the American voters clearly aren’t up for it.

    • @britaliope@kourjetez.bzh
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      01 month ago

      I mean, yes, on paper, they are part of the nuclear shield protecting Europe. But europe still to have USA approval to use those nukes. And i’m definitively not sure Trump administration will ever approve Germany use those nukes, especially against Russia (and russia knows it).

      So in practice, i don’t think it’s more than a piece of paper. It’s not a line of defense if the country that own those weapons and troops is hostile / indifferent to an invasion.

      It’s the same debate than F-35. Yes, on paper, it is better than Gripen, typhoon, eurofighters, or rafales. But if US disable them / refuse to provide parts / give intel to ennemy, then they are basically unusable in a real environment, so it’s just a very expensive decoration to use for meeting demonstrations.

    • acargitz
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      030 days ago

      So long as Turkey isn’t part of it, is a good idea.

    • azuth
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      030 days ago

      Not saying that’s not a great idea, but just think of what it would entail - for starters, who would be the commander in chief of a European army?

      Not a foreign adversary, probably France

      The EU needs to remove all us military from it’s territory, replicate any NATO structures as EU ones and even make sure there are no people in our armies with confused loyalties. This needed to happen before Trump even became a candidate for 2016.

  • Yerbouti
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    029 days ago

    Dead Kennedys “We’ve got a Bigger problem now” playing in the background: “Welcome to 1984, are you ready for the third world war??”