• CascadeOfLight [he/him]
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    195 days ago

    Me when I’m an anarchist who cares about state gold reserves.

    Anyway, it was payment for the

    • 242 aircraft,
    • 703 pieces of artillery,
    • 731 tanks,
    • 1,386 trucks,
    • 300 armored cars
    • 15,000 heavy machine guns,
    • 500,000 rifles,
    • 30,000 sub-machine guns,
    • 4,000,000 artillery shells,
    • 1,000,000,000 machine gun cartridges,
    • over 69,000 tons of war material, and
    • over 29,000 tons of ammunition

    That the USSR provided. Should they have given it for free? Should they have not given support at all? Would it have been better for the Republicans to just accept they were going to lose anyway and die with their gold? Would you prefer that gold to have been captured by the Fascists?

    Besides, the actual greatest gold heist of the century was during Indian independence, when their entire gold reserves were airlifted to the UK in exchange for… nothing. Which I’m sure you knew about, having devoted a proportional amount of your time to looking into the actual crimes of capitalist nations as you have the fictional crimes of socialist ones.

    • @masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      05 days ago

      Me when I’m an anarchist who cares about state gold reserves.

      I don’t care much for gold… but it seems to be one of the few things you tankies actually do care about.

      But hey, tankie… good news! Now at least we know that there are at least two reasons tankies would actually bother to fight fascists at all, eh?

      Anyway, it was payment for the

      That is all the third largest gold reserve in the world at the time paid for? Just that measly amount of “aid?”

      The Soviet Union got 7,411 aircraft from the western allies during WW2 - was Tankie Nr.3 forced to ship all his gold reserves to Washington DC, perhaps?

        • @masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          05 days ago

          You were the only person to bring up gold…

          Did I, tankie?

          Seems your glorious Tankie Nr.3 brought it up quite a few years ago…

          “According to Orlov, Joseph Stalin celebrated the arrival of the gold with a banquet attended by members of the politburo, in which he was famously quoted as saying, “The Spaniards will never see their gold again, just as they don’t see their ears,” an expression based on a Russian proverb.”

            • @masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              04 days ago

              You were the one who brought up gold in this thread.

              Jesus Christ you tankies are hard of hearing. Here… again.

              Seems your glorious Tankie Nr.3 brought it up quite a few years ago…

              “According to Orlov, Joseph Stalin celebrated the arrival of the gold with a banquet attended by members of the politburo, in which he was famously quoted as saying, “The Spaniards will never see their gold again, just as they don’t see their ears,” an expression based on a Russian proverb.”

              • bort [none/use name]
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                4 days ago

                … most of what Orlov said, even under oath, or during his debriefing by the US intelligence officials, or in private discussions with his friend Gazur, has by now been established as outright invention.[7]

                But again, you seem to be the only person that actually cares about this gold.

                Frankly the fact that you’re arguing that you’d prefer the USSR to have not aided the Republic, and that you’d have preferred Franco to have held these gold reserves rather than the Soviets, just says a lot about you and your convictions.

                • @masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  03 days ago

                  … most of what Orlov said, even under oath, or during his debriefing by the US intelligence officials, or in private discussions with his friend Gazur, has by now been established as outright invention.[7]

                  Lol! Quite the duplicitous lot, aren’t you?

                  Is there anything you and your ilk say that can be trusted in any way whatsoever?

                  But again, you seem to be the only person that actually cares about this gold.

                  Only because this thread is flooded with tankies that don’t.

                  the USSR to have not aided the Republic,

                  It would have been absolutely grand if the USSR actually aided Spain in it’s fight against fascism. But it seems you don’t actually understand the difference between aiding someone and extorting them.

                  • bort [none/use name]
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                    63 days ago

                    You’re so bizarrely bitter about something that happened decades before you were born. It’s very strange.