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    iirc proton has complied with requests to identify users before too.

    • @mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Legal requests, which they were legally obligated to comply with. Every single country in the world will have some avenue to require data to be released to authorities.

      That’s why strong privacy at every layer is so important. E2EE, for instance, means Proton cannot turn over any data that was transferred to and from customers. Private payments mean the company can’t turn over data on who is paying for accounts. DoH means the company can’t turn over data on what sites customers visited. Etc…

        • @WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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          152 days ago

          you mean, move after getting the request? that won’t rid them of the obligation to serve the request, laws can be enforced internationally. and if they were to move to a small island or something, a big question if they have any capable servers and network bandwidth, and whether that small country try to extort the company to their benefit that just moved there

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      112 days ago

      I’m not inherently trying to defend Proton here, but the question to ask here is – did they have a choice? I’m asking seriously, and not rhetorically. Did they willingly hand over the data, or were they legally required to, by Swiss law?

        • @mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          152 days ago

          Two points here…

          1. Moving after they receive the request doesn’t void the request. They’d still be legally compelled to turn over the data.
          2. They are. That’s literally what this article is about.
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          112 days ago

          Which is what they’re doing, but the bigger point is that you can’t say you’re going to move while all of this (subpoenas, etc) are happening. Before, sure. After, sure. During? Nope.

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      72 days ago

      Switzerland has strong privacy laws, but there are still situations where they legally have to comply. Of course, Proton also collects very little data and keeps things end to end encrypted, so even if they have to provide data, it’s not much.