Russia has been bombarded in the biggest Ukrainian drone attack of the war, Moscow officials have said, on the same day as crunch talks are set to be held between Kyiv and the United States.
The Russian Defence Ministry said air defences shot down 337 Ukrainian drones over 10 Russian regions overnight, a record high, as Ukraine hit back at a series of brutal recent attacks launched by Moscow.
At least one Russian civilian has been killed and several injured, with dramatic footage showing fires raging from the exploding drones including in high rise residential buildings near Moscow.
At least use an archive link if you’re going to share the Daily Mail
It’s sad but you can’t expect attacked countries to not fight back.
They committed a war crime. Take a moment to look at the photo gallery, they bombed civilian cars, civilian apartment complex, single family housing.
And they are doing this on the eve of a potential ceasefire. This is not “sad”, it’s malicious and counterproductive. This kind of attack does nothing to improve the balance of power of Ukraine, it’s essentially state terrorism.
If you’re worried about Ukrainians striking civilian infrastructure, i have some bad news about what Russia has been doing.
This must be that “whataboutism” I keep hearing liberals crying about
It’s so sad, if only Russia could’ve averted this tragedy somehow.
They tried, for 8 years. The West collectively said “nah, fuck you and your peace deals” and continued to bomb Donbas.
Now y’all are celebrating war crimes with the one hand and clutching your pearls that Russia hits back at military equipment fired from within hospitals (another fucking war crime from Ukraine) with the other.
I hope the upcoming burst of the bubble puts the west down for real, I can’t believe people like you are voting for the people in charge of the biggest military apparatus in human history.
Russia tried not attacking Ukraine for 8 years and then just had to do it? That does sound very Russian.
Friend, you’re clutching your pearls over a single attack but Russian invasion has caused tens of thousands of civilian deaths. Give me a break.
This is a Brazen Lie. There would have been no war in Donbas, no bombing and no death if Russia itself didn’t send its troops in there. The Russians, including Dugin and Girkin, have openly said this. Even Putin mentioned in an interview invading donbas in 2014
There would have been a war because the DNR and LNR seceded, and Ukraine refused to negotiate in good faith, choosing to bomb civilians into an unconditional surrender.
We will all win! Because we will have a job — they don’t have one. We will have pensions — they don’t have them. We will have the support of people — children and pensioners — but they do not have it. Our children will go to schools and kindergartens, and they will have them sitting in basements. Because they don’t know how to do anything! That’s how, that’s how we’re going to win this war.
Poroshenko said this in 2014.
If only the west hadn’t provoked the whole conflict.
Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine
you see? this is why we didn’t want redditors to come to lemmy to begin with. you brought the fucking astroturf campaign with you.
Another ceasefire that the fucker Putin will break for 21st time.
Ukraine is torpedo’ing their own ceasefire offer by doing an indiscriminate drone attack (a war crime), and the first thing you think is “buh in my brain Putin would break tuh ceasefuhre uhnyways” ?
And how many war crime has Russia commited by indiscriminately bombing ukrainian civilians? So many you can’t even count them anymore. You don’t seem really bothered by the Russian war crimes. Strange.
This is what liberals call “whataboutism”
But none of this would be happening if Russia stayed in Russia and wasn’t invading Ukraine and bombing cities. Ukraine was never a threat to Russia.
Ok.
Still whataboutism
Having been to both countries, and made friends in both countries, this whole war really hurts to see. I hate the Russian government, but the Russian people don’t deserve this any more than the Ukrainian people deserve being invaded. I can’t give an opinion on how strategically “necessary” this was in the eyes of Ukrainian military leadership, but it’s sad all the same.
Every time Ukraine suffers a big military loss, they start doing massive attacks on civilians to distract from that. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2025/03/11/retreat-ukrainian-brigades-appear-to-be-leaving-kursk/
edit: I guess basic facts of the situation makes people who’ve been guzzling propaganda for the past three years very upset
Every time Russia suffers a big military loss, they start doing massive attacks on civilians to distract from that.
FTFY
Uh-huh, Russia blows up its own civilian populations just like it blows up its own gas pipelines.
Deeply unserious cope.
its own
I’m trying my best to follow but where did “its own” come from here?
The civilian population under discussion is Russia’s own. That’s what this post is about.
Last I checked it’s AFU that’s getting routed in Kursk. Of course, nobody should expect people who weren’t able to engage with the facts for the past three years to start doing that now.
More correct is just “Russia is attacking civilians”
If Ukraine ran out of civilians they would start attacking civilians in another country
Sometimes I wonder how the fuck we as the world have been getting all of our shit stolen by people this delusional.
You’re a fucking hair away from being a nazi ragging on about how immigrants are gonna come in and assault everybody and then move elsewhere when they’re done, look in the mirror a little jfc. Hell, you’re already using their asiatic horde script.
There is a comedic lack of self awareness or a comedic lack of historical knowledge in your comment
Somebody in here does have a lack of self awareness, but it’s tragic more than it is funny. I’m past seeing the fun in yet another westerner frothing at the mouth.
Do illuminate me though, I’m sure such a brash and confident attitude can only come from
white mediocrityreading a lot of history and political theory books and not just, like, vibes and half remembered headlines.Imperialism doesn’t just end at one country it continues. Look at Occupied China, their 1930 border was a lot smaller than their 1949 border, and they added Tibet. In recent history they added HK and are looking towards Taiwan
You know it’s not about liberating Ukrainians because Russia hasn’t returned any land, if you are going to say that’s because Ukraine is still evil then why aren’t the liberated lands independent of both Russia and Ukraine?
If you think Ukraine is the aggressor in this then how much ground combat has happened in Russia? I’m sure your unbiased/non-western sources are full of battles taking place around Moscow and Saint Petersburg
Regardless of the truth of that statement, do you contradict the many, many Russian drone and missile attacks against Ukrainian civilian targets? I’m curious if the condemnation for violence against non-combatants goes both ways.
Russia does hit civilian targets as well, however the difference is that Ukraine does this intentionally and systemically. Meanwhile, Ukraine is also known to use civilians as human shields for its army. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/04/ukraine-civilians-army-bases-amnesty-russia-war
The human shield argument has never really passed the smell test for me, especially when used as condemnation against Palestinians. It’s very difficult to defend against the invasion of a civilian area without occupying said civilian area. Existing military infrastructure typically doesn’t exist at the scale a frontline needs in invaded territory. Strikes targeted specifically against civilians are obviously unacceptable and immoral regardless of perpetrator.
The AFU is an actual army operated by the regime in Ukraine, comparing this to Palestinian resistance is the height of absurdity. There actual conventions prohibiting armies from using civilians as human shields, and if you don’t understand why these conventions exist then I really d on’t know what else to tell you here.
I’m not trying to argue that it’s okay. I’m not a military expert or analyst. However, people that are those things don’t make this argument and so I’m not willing to unless I’m provided evidence of a viable alternative. A better example might be the Ba’athist defense of Iraq during the unjustified 2003 invasion (not that the Ba’athist regime wasn’t a nightmare for the Iraqi people, it just wasn’t the US’s place to involve themselves on false pretenses). Iraqi cities are being invaded, they simply don’t have the military infrastructure to have their forces entirely separate from civilian targets, and so civilians end up getting hurt by airstrikes and artillery because of their proximity to military targets. Of course, party extremists also used extreme violence to prevent civilian retreat, but I’ve seen no evidence of this in Ukraine. Convention is all well and good until said conventions would require surrendering territory to avoid conflict in civilian areas. Governments will take any action they deem necessary to survive a conflict. Both parties in a conflict can be immoral.
I’m not aware of any credible experts making this argument, nor does this argument make any sense under even minimal scrutiny. The reality is that a dictatorial regime in Ukraine that cancelled elections and banned opposition parties along with independent media, is holding the country hostage.
Of course, party extremists also used extreme violence to prevent civilian retreat, but I’ve seen no evidence of this in Ukraine.
Aside from all the videos of people being grabbed off the street and being gang pressed into fighting you mean. It’s so bad that even western media is reporting on it https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2023/12/17/people-snatchers-ukraines-army-recruiters-use-harsh-tactics-to-fill-ranks-for-war-against-russia/
Governments will take any action they deem necessary to survive a conflict. Both parties in a conflict can be immoral.
Both parties can be immoral, except in this particular case it’s very clear that western backed fascist regime is the only immoral party.
Ok one civilian killed, how many tactical targets did they hit? 337 shot down, how many drones did hit their target? sounds like this post shares only the absolute worst side of the story.
“The Russian Ministry of Defense claimed to have shot down at least 91 drones in the region around Moscow and more than 240 drones directed at other targets across the country.”
“The Ukrainian military said it had targeted Moscow’s oil refinery, which provides more than a third of the fuel consumed in the capital region, along with an oil production station in the Orel region. Neither claim could be independently verified.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/11/world/europe/ukraine-russia-moscow-war-drones.html
"Ukraine’s armed forces “struck a number of strategic objects of the Russian Federation involved in ensuring armed aggression against Ukraine,” they said in a statement Tuesday.
The Russian military said it shot down 337 Ukrainian drones over 10 Russian regions. Three people were killed and 18 injured, and several residential buildings damaged, according to Russian officials."
NYT does not say whether a civilian was killed or soldier. They all leave that out. Like almost all Western newspapers. Which is why you got Daily Mail.
When was it? I’m looking at Russian news and not seeing anything, they’re usually pretty eager to talk about drone attacks. I read about one on Nizhny Novgorod, IIRC it was early morning 11.03
If Ukraine actually did this, it’s a beautiful find out stage after Russia has been fucking around for far too long. But the skeptic in me says this is actually a false flag staged to manufacture reasons to deny peace talks and continue to escalate.
People who don’t understand what Ukraine is doing are priviledged and their culture has never had to fight an oppressor or they won long ago and their people simply forgot what it was like to fight to survive.
My people were invaded, genocided and attempts were made to assimilate us after genocide attempts failed. Our patriots fought back for many years, but ultimately lost. Know what the oppressors called our patriots? The old way of calling your victim a “terrorist” for fighting back: A traitor to the crown (you can guess which nation did this to us now). Our patriots were hung in mass and anyone that believed in the cause and rebelled were also hung. Our patriots had killed many soldiers and civilians in the attempts to free our people from the invading nation. It was unavoidable and a necessary sacrifice to make for the cause in their minds. Today, we have a holiday in their honour, as our people ended up surviving the genocide and assimilation attempts and we didn’t forget their efforts to free us.
Death is part of war and a victim of oppression is allowed to defend themselves from being genocided. The struggles to survive don’t just happen within people’s rose tinted glasses. I’m tired of the priviledged trying to control the narrative of what is “right” or “wrong” for a nation to do in response to being genocided.
Have you ever considered that Ukraine doesn’t want peace talks to succeed? Agree with it or not, they want their land back. By attacking Russia in its capital heavily right before peace talks, they’re daring Putin to fume about it and end up violating the ceasefire, giving Ukraine the ability to say “We told you so” and ask for more money from the US and EU.
to the people downvoting me, do you disagree with ANYTHING i said?
Why would they want peace talks between Trump and Putin to succeed? That’s like wishing that peace talks between Hitler and Stalin went great.
i know? that’s what i just said. why are people downvoting me for, like, agreeing with them? this place is just relentless. i might quit
This is what always happens when we stop arming/funding right-wing extremist groups. They make things a million times worse.
Zelenskyy would rather start WW3 than hold elections. Completely psychotic.
How can you all contort yourself into a pretzel to somehow make Zelensky the bad guy? It’s like you forgot who and how this was started.
Which portion of your country would you give up to an invading country?
They gave up their entire country to the west when they allowed the US to overthrow their government in the 2014 Maidan Coup. Then they let NATO place troop & missile deployments at the Russian border, in violation of multiple different agreements (Zelenskyy said he supported these agreements to get elected), and now Russia understandably wants a large buffer zone to prevent this from happening again (and protect the ethnic Russians who were being targeted by the Ukrainian far-right).
News flash: no one who refuses to hold elections, and who bans opposition parties & media, is ever the good guy.
But I understand that y’all want this proxy war to continue til the last Ukrainian, and don’t understand how dangerous it is to escalate with a nuclear superpower. Not sure how the drone attacks are supposed to convince them they don’t need a buffer zone, but that’s the level of strategizing we’ve come to expect from the Ukrainian government.
texas and florida
edit: better yet, all the red states from the last election
Fair enough.
nothing about this or ukraine’s situation is fair.
nato is a threat to russia, ukraine was fooled into thinking that they could join nato so the russians responded like how americans responded to cuba or mexico, or agentina, or chile when they tried to join the russians or peru or bolivia or paraguay when they try to join china.
russia and nato are dominant powers for now and like all dominant powers in the past; they get to dictate what other countries can and can’t do; it’s all totally unfair and contortions aren’t needed to understand this fact.
ukraine was fooled into thinking that they could join nato
What utter bullshit.
Ukraine has avoided joining nato as a part of the Budapest treaty with Russia the us and uk.
Until russia attacked Ukraine had no intention or hope of joining nato.
None of these Russian properganda excuses change the one clear fact.
Russia broke that treaty when they attacked not the Ukraine.
NATO will give Ukraine security. Ukraine will make the alliance stronger.
Wow. I’m kinda shocked by this news. Ukraine on the offensive? Why?
Negotiations in Saudi right now. Ukraine probably wants to show they are willing to bomb cities just like Russia if they do not get a good deal.
How come when Russia drops bombs it’s a military target (or something meters away from one) but when Ukraine drops bombs it’s always schools, apartments, and shopping malls?
Didn’t Russia bomb a building with “children” painted in front of it once
Daily Mail (essentially trump/putin media)
i wouldnt be surprised if the russians attacked themselves so they could turn back on their ceasefire and make the ukrainians look like war crazed terrorists.
ill believe it fully when the ukrainians themselves claim the attack on a non biased platform. this is practically a heresay news source from the far right.
I don’t support Putin but that doesn’t mean I blindly dismiss that civilians get harmed in military conflicts. The thrust of your reasoning appears to be “Ukraine is good, Russia is bad, killing civilians is bad, Ukraine killed Russian civilians…DOES NOT COMPUTE…CONTRADICTION…DISMISS THE FACTS”
Like, dude. War is Hell. And it’s never as simple as good guys and bad guys. Sure, Putin is a clear bad guy. But most everything else going on is morally grey. As for the facts of the attack, this was confirmed by AP, the BBC, and CNN. Are you sure the British are Trump/Putin media? What about the AP, which has been barred from the White House over Trump’s “Gulf of America” debacle? There’s no excuses for not simply looking it up. You made this post 35 minutes ago.
EDIT: To be clear, I do oppose Trump, Putin, and the Daily Mail. They are all authoritarian right-wing in ideology if not outright neo-fascist/neo-nationalist/proto-fascist
im merely dismissing known state propagandist news sources as fact. i need more evidence from unbiased sources to make an educated decision. also timing is sus as hell.
sorry, i just dont blindly believe the first thing i read, especially from sources like the daily mail. the list on why is long, but it ends with a fascist and an oligarch in the oval office, dismantling the US and attacking my country. and they (daily mail, and news sources like them) are partially responsible for this entire mess.
war is hell, but the media motivates it, spins it, justifies it, and in itself, it is a weapon of war. its important to question sources, now more than ever.
I guess I’m saying you can dismiss the Daily Mail without developing speculative conspiracy theories to explain away its claims. A broken clock is right twice a day. But, yeah. I wish OP had posted a source other than the Mail
i understand your point, however.
theres nothing speculative about questioning a sources validity when its well know the source is partially responsible for things like BREXIT which weakened the UK, the EU, and NATO. all things that make someone like putin, crack a corner of the mouth smile. and how it has a conservative right leaning bias, opposing anything liberal minded people may believe in regardless of whether or not their counter point is even remotely true or beneficial to post for the average reader.
its also known to spread sensationalist, and innaccurate news, consistently. its always been a controversial news source. and a laughing stock of journalism.
hence my skeptisizm, but i digress.
daily news blows. thats my point. i dont trust them to report quality, fact based news.
i wouldnt be surprised if the russians attacked themselves
The absolute state of libs. Put down the tinfoil.
Russians are at the same time desperate for a peace deal bc they’re getting decimated but staging an elaborate and incredibly expensive attack to jettison the deal. ??? Boy am I not surprised your ruling class doesn’t respect your intellect enough to pretend they’re not robbing you blind.
Russians are at the same time desperate for a peace deal bc they’re getting decimated but staging an elaborate and incredibly expensive attack to jettison the deal. ???
they do this tactic in war, super advanced technology. its called a “F.I.B.”…works wonders, its been patented and used by the most horrible of fascist regimes, but its said to have existed for millenia, and its a beautiful weapon, a tremendous weapon, some say, and ive heard them, they call it THE BEST weapon, and it works wonders on people, and nearly half of americans, SO MUCH SO in fact that it helped them (oligarchs, russians, bad actors etc) alter many elections over the years. but most recently in the last US election.
F.I.B.
F eeding. I diots. B ullshit.
theres one cure for it, and its a simple program, but you have to want to do it yourself, and do it constantly, every day. and thats the kicker. but here it goes.
check your sources. look for bias. dont take everything at face value. think critically, question everything, and never stop looking for the truth.
(on this subject specifically, i need more sources and confirmed evidence beyond what comes from the kremlin, the timing is just…too perfect)
This sort of shit is why I distrust gringos, you bring up the villain of the month and y’all might as well be talking about Voldemort. I get that your education is barely good enough to teach you literacy, but you have to get past processing all politics as villanous caricatures and shining armor heroics.
Grow up.
im not a “gringo” but go off on telling us how you view the world through a racial lense.
also. im not american. my country has a much higher value on public education, and its a much higher quality on average compared to the US and all other G7 nations. and we actively teach critical thinking in our curriculum for this exact reason. to avoid fear based actions, and to not fall victim to bad sources, or at least severely reduce the chances, people are people.
trump has been a POS loser since at least the 60’s, elon has been a silver spoon fed dip shit his entire life who just had enough capital to buy other peoples ideas.
ive disliked elon since he attained billionaire status, and ive never like trump. he was always a creep and a failure of a human being.
feel free to tell me im wrong, but lets leave race out of the discourse, okay buddy? it doesnt serve your point. unless thats your only point?
👏 a well deserved clap back👏
Just like 9/11
Turns out imperialism is bad regardless of it being US or Russian
Did you respond to the wrong comment?
Nope.
9/11 is a direct response to US imperialism in the middle east and tied directly with our abandonment of the mujahideen following supporting them throughout the Soviet Afghan war.
Our abandonment before their government stabilized is responsible for the rise of the Taliban and the influence of Bin Laden.
Ukraine targeting civilian centers like this is exactly the same kind of clap back against imperialist greed for land and resources.
Imperialism and authoritarian behavior historically always meets bloody resistance; see also Hamas in Palestine.
